tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1262963742903063726.post7476241488216847846..comments2024-02-12T22:45:56.115-08:00Comments on Awakening Ynnead: Tyranids in Capture and ControlFaolainhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12190478797987307232noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1262963742903063726.post-27921201555877846112009-06-14T19:18:07.154-07:002009-06-14T19:18:07.154-07:00Yeah, with a 'fex, I think the wound is the fi...Yeah, with a 'fex, I think the wound is the first stop on the defensive upgrades. I'd maybe consider the T6 to T7 after that, since it'll mess up S6-8 weapons.<br /><br />I think a lot of folks don't give Raveners a lot of credit, but they DO have blinding speed. Beasts have a hell of a charge range (6" + Fleet + 12" Charge)and with Rending, they're 40 points a head.Raptor1313https://www.blogger.com/profile/16909802419382710809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1262963742903063726.post-30791435772758469552009-06-12T20:20:31.993-07:002009-06-12T20:20:31.993-07:00Thanks for your comments. You're right, the p...Thanks for your comments. You're right, the psychic scream really doesn't belong. I had a few spare points and decided to throw it on him. I should have scraped up 5 more points and used it to put an extra wound on the carnifex. While it did cause him to fail one leadership test that he would have passed otherwise, they were marines and regrouped right away. If that extra wound was on the carnifex he wouldn't have died and could have possibly killed the remaining 3 scouts.<br /><br />I think I will give Raveners a try. I'll proxy a sizeable unit next game and see how they go.Faolainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12190478797987307232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1262963742903063726.post-25082387594965353532009-06-12T18:16:23.832-07:002009-06-12T18:16:23.832-07:00I've had the same experience with regular gaun...I've had the same experience with regular gaunts just getting waxed. S3, T3, 6+ is just NOT going to cut it against virtually anything. They're not bad as a wall unit giving you cover saves, but not that great against anyone that wants a piece of them.<br /><br />Warriors with Deathspitters are nasty; I've cranked out a crap-ton of firepower with such a brood before and it's ALWAYS fun to watch them whip a bunch of S6 seed pods at the other guy. The only problem is that the brood COULD be a couple of monstrous creatures.<br /><br />I hear you on 'nid claiming. It IS an issue, and you hit it on the head: you've got to plan that in advance. I've seen some folks think in terms of Without Number gaunts sitting in the back, ready to always move on and sit on the objective.<br /><br />Of course, you don't always have to claim the objective; if you just have more tha nthe other guy you're fine.<br /><br />I gotta agree with you on the Flyrant. well, a flyrant isn't FRAGILE (T6, four wounds, 3+ save is not fragile, 10 guardsman in the open with 5+ saves are fragile) but a lone flyrant is not that hard to wax.<br /><br />Gargoyles...if I were gonna use 'em, I'd find a way to convert 'em from regular fleshborer gaunts. There's no way i'm dropping $7-8 on a guy when I need to take 10-20 of 'em.<br /><br />I disagree with you on outflanking. Use of sacrifical units, or unit placement, can nullify the times you outflank successfully. Lictors can get you in when you need to be in, but can't get you in WHERE you need to be in.<br /><br />Additionally, Lictors really aren't such hot stuff any more since they changed Rending and the way close combat works. I think they're better off trying to tackle vehicles, m'self.<br /><br />I think Raveners would be worth looking into as proxies; they have the speed and in a pinch you should be able to convert 'em from warrior kits. If the enemy ignores 'em? PAIN and SUFFERING.<br /><br />I also wonder what's with the Psychic Scream on the Tyrant in your list...just as an aside, one scream doesn't seem to be worth it. -1ld is a pain and all, but it's only when it's cumulative that it becomes a real problem.<br /><br />Congrats on the lessons; the education in the loss is plenty important (...I should well know; I have become more intelligent by a few times this week.)Raptor1313https://www.blogger.com/profile/16909802419382710809noreply@blogger.com